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Not a bad idea.

Just wondering if a tulpa could help in the general area.

Yes.

9:23 PM

Tulpas are helpful - but not a replacement for health treatments.

if you're willing to trust them that much, yeah

That's all.

So it could but you have to have confidence in your tulpa.

Quite honestly, the help is that you get companionship and caring.

9:26 PM

Even if it is not to the same extent as interaction with another person outside of your head.

Some people have problem with other people for judging them. So a tulpa haves a more understanding and wants to help u much it can. That's why I ask.

Typically tulpas will be more understanding because they can empathize with you far more easily as they have much the same perspective in terms of information access.

if you can get somebody to sit down with you and listen to you long enough most people would be able to empathize with you and not judge you, it's just easy for people to make assumptions and judgements if they don't understand the whole situation

Ah - as for information tulpas have access to... they start mainly as children that may have access to a large amount of information but do not know how to contextualize it yet.

9:30 PM

Think of a 5-year-old with a dictionary.

9:31 PM

Even if they can read every word and understand what it is meant to mean, they don't know how it applies to the world unless they gain experience.

9:31 PM

So - they have the same knowledge of language as you, but won't necessarily use it the same way.

Thanks winter

9:33 PM

And zardary

no problem

So drawing your tulpa piece by piece can help visualize think better?

I'm sure that drawing your tulpa could help you visualize them, yes.

9:34 PM

...though, that isn't saying too much.

How about

Maybe.

Scripting the tulpa in a book

...obviously, my pre-emptive response was a joke.

The answer to most "is doing things that involve my tulpa in one way or another beneficial" questions is yes.

Yes. Though, I would not personally recommend essentially telling them how to act in a story context as a way of telling them that they 'should' become a specific character.

personally I tend to not focus to much on some of the details when I visualize Allun, I know the details but if I don't think about think unless I want it (ex: Allun has brown eyes and tends to wear a green dress but I almost never think of those instead focusing on her shape and her red hair)

They develop based on the experiences they have, and are their own person that deserve equal treatment to you.

Win I did make characters in my story in put all details in them.

9:39 PM

Sorry more I understand how they work the more understanding I have

Indeed.

Be more successful with both of them.

Winter mentioned "...a 5 year old with a dictionary..." about new Tuppers... I suppose that's true for some people but please do not feel like you have to teach your Tulpa the alphabet or things they would teach in elementary school. (edited)

the dictionary was an analogy for your memories, they'll teach themselves everything they need to communicate with you

Young Tulpas would still have the mindset of whatever your age is, so even if they have trouble understanding and communicating they could develop specific more-adult ideas and stuff.

9:52 PM

Yeah, what Zardary said (edited)

Is it Rong to have rules with your tulpa?

What rules did you have in mind?

Well I have 2 kids and a wife that won't understand. So I don't want my tulpa to be controll over me win there around

a tulpa can't take over your body without permission

General rule is your Tulpa can't control you unless you allow them to control you

of course rules are perfectly acceptable. I highly doubt a tulpa would do something like that without permission, though. They have to suffer any consequences, too.

Ah, yes. Don't treat tulpas as if they are specifically children.

9:57 PM

That was simply a comparison in terms of how they need experience - context in which to apply the knowledge they share with you.

Setting those boundaries is reasonable. Cat doesn't want me doing stuff when she's at school, as an example. (edited)

but yeah as long as the rules aren't creul in any way shape or form there's nothing wrong with them

That's good to know

Generally speaking, I do recommend talking with your tulpa and being communicative in terms of what would cause you trouble and what wouldn't.

9:59 PM

Go from there.

Setting boundaries is fine. I mean if you really want something you might as well spell it out

Yes.

10:00 PM

Discuss things. Consider how you would like to be treated, if you were in their position.

10:00 PM

Considering that isn't going to be perfect, naturally - but it can certainly help.

Thx

I suppose in the end, it just means: Have empathy for your tulpa.

Can your tulpa fall asleep?

5:39 AM

Or do they nothing to say at the moment?

Instead of "fall asleep", I prefer to use the term "go inactive", as sleep tends to specify that the brain is undergoing the sleep stages - however, this does not happen without physical sleep. On the other hand, going inactive is perfectly common. I often do it when I am disinterested in what Skye is doing at the moment - she often goes inactive when I switch in and spend time with friends.

5:49 AM

There are different degrees of inactivity as well - we can go inactive but remain dimly conscious of what the other is doing, responding if something catches our interest. If we are inebriated or close to unconsciousness (such as extreme tiredness - amusingly quite close to being inebriated), then the one in the background is typically inactive to the degree that they do not respond to prods from the active one, or to something of interest to them.

Oh that makes since.

If my tulpa wants to chat should I let it?

7:49 AM

It's kinda part there sometimes.

7:49 AM

And would that help let it develop on it's own?

7:52 AM

Winter??

Proxying is an excellent way to help... though, to be clear - you should have clear communication so that you can properly type for them.

8:00 AM

It does certainly help them develop their own identity as well, yes.

Thanks

8:00 AM

They talk alot

8:01 AM

Especially win they don't like something

People tend to do that, yes.

They also fight with each other as well.

8:02 AM

Well one dose

Perhaps some mediation is in order, then.

Like talking to 2 people at once

8:03 AM

Well I talk to them alot

8:04 AM

So I'mma hopping that helps alot

Mm.

I wish my host could go inactive (edited)

is it relaxing? it sounds like it

I wouldn't necessarily call it relaxing... Or exciting. Or, to be clear, really much of anything - when fully inactive, you don't experience anything.

5:15 PM

When mostly inactive and merely monitoring for something interesting, I suppose it is somewhat relaxing to not think, insofar as you don't "feel" much of anything. I would compare it to being in stage 1 sleep, where you are dimly aware of everything around you, but actively thinking is beyond you.

well, I find that pretty relaxing.

If you force enough, will wonderland be like a lucid dream? I heard people talking about 100% clear vision but can you also achieve 100% clear smell, sound and touch? Can you also hear sounds behind you when you aren't expecting them?

theoretically yes, but it's something that many just don't reach, for whatever reason

Thanks for your answer! Could you or someone describe how reallistic it is for you?

forcing =/= wonderland

6:20 PM

forcing is developing a tulpa. Wonderlands are, believe it or not, only tangentially related to tulpas.

@kaj Forcing itself is entirely unrelated to the wonderland. Wonderlands are literally just a daydreamed world that you repeatedly imagine. It doesn't need to exist - it doesn't even need to be the same thing every time.

7:19 PM

When referring to 100% 'clear senses' and unexpected sounds, what you are proposing is learning to impose (experience controlled hallucinations) and apply that to the daydreaming. In addition, you would then be proposing to make them less controlled... specifically during that daydreaming.

7:19 PM

It is certainly possible, but certainly not easy.

@kaj I do coarse detail and color with visualization mostly

@SkyeNet Ok, that is what I meant. Thanks!

8:08 PM

Would you train the other senses the same way you train vision? As in trying to 'parrot' or pretend you hear things or feel things, try to anticipate them, until it happens automatically?

I suppose.

That's an awesome though

Whenever i do an active forcing session it only last about 20mins before my mind fills with intrusive thoughts and i cant focus anymore, is there a way to improve this?

Practice. It's a bit of a hurdle to jump over, really.

Okay